'Carrie' - Official Discussion Thread

[LoveHurts]

Ok, after carefully analyzing this whole debate I have arrived at the following conclusion:

[sharky]

Yeah, funny thing is none of the hate is coming from me. Oh, and that saying, "Haters gonna hate!", it's an outmoded term that's nothing more than ghetto slang. It makes those who say it sound and look quite low-rent and uneducated. I'm not implying that you are but it's widely considered that those who say it are ill-bred white trash - or if they're not white, well, they're just trash. Just saying. Posters gonna post.

I'm starting to think you are an internet troll to be quite honest.

[sharky]

Correction, Mr. Assumption, I'm getting that impression from others on here. Besides, it's a known fact that anytime anyone dares speak their mind, call a spade a spade, and not b/s around are immediately called negative terms by those who they themselves cannot handle people thinking outside their little world. Well, welcome to reality where not everyone is going to agree with you. Face it: remakes are considered a tired joke the world over and you're just going to have to accept that.

I'm laughing. We're just a community of internet trolls set out to oppress your superior thinking? We disagreed on remakes, why are you making it into more than it is? I don't know what triggered you into this pretentious tirade about young people on the internet and people having a limited grasp on reality and whatever other irrelevant tripe you've brought up . Stop with the hostilities and I'm sure you'll find everyone's actually really nice and open-minded here.

[sharky]

I didn't say all of you; don't go putting words in my mouth, little boy. You, like those kids on the other site, have arrived at Assumption Lane and now you're out of gas. You're misinterpreting someone who is strong-minded, strong-willed, opinionated (and by the way that is not a negative thing despite what PhD serpents spew out), and outspoken as some hostile bloke. There's a saying: assumption is the mother of all f--- ups. Nicely done. Oh, and this will be the last time I'll have to read your drivel because you're now officially on my ignore list along with two others. Goodbye, boy.

Goodbye Mordensen, enjoy the forums.

[Oskar]

Holy derail...

Can we please get this thread back on the right track - and more important, please remember to keep the tone clear and sober. This is a Chloë Grace Moretz fan site and forum, so most of the users here are young. They do not need this kind of language on a fan forum.

We are all intitled to our opinions - for or against remakes.

Personally I am sceptic, like most, towards all new remakes. But that dosn't mean they are instantly failures or mockeries or worse than the original. I choose to wait for reviews and user reviews - and if they all hail the remake down, I properly will only rent it on blu-ray if it has just a small interest for me - but if reviews on the other hand are somewhat favorable, then I will properly go watch it in the theaters and form my own opinion there.

Now, this Carrie remake is said to follow the book alot closer than the original Carrie. There are several sites on the internet, where you can read the difference between the book and the original Carrie. Knowing these differences might give us some clues as to how the new Carrie will be adapted - and I guess they will also bring it up a bit agewise as some of the things, that was "shocking" in the original Carrie would most likely only be seen as "funny" if shown today (fx. the tampon tossing).

This movie could fail, sure, but I know Chloë has the acting skills to keep her own as Carrie. Its a role much like those she has already done. Unless totally misdirected, I am sure that Chloë alone will make this remake worth seeing - and if the rumours about getting Jodie Foster as the mother is true - well, that only makes it all much more interesting to follow.

I think some people tend to forget, that remakes are not all bad. Sometimes a remake can bring an old classic movie back to live to a whole new young audience, who would never have seen the original (properly because its too old or black/white etc). Thats an important thing to remember - its not all about the money - though the production companies do thing in money many producers have a genuine interest in making something they love or bringing a new take to and old movie.

Then again, sometimes remakes are made way to fast... Spiderman? The first one is like... 10 years old - and already they reboot it?

But even the fast remakes/reboots can be good... Batman begins - don't tell me that wasnt worth it.

Now, like Faboost said - I also think there are many remakes that have proven their worth:

Scarface, for sure.
The Thing (the 1982 version) was also a remake to remember
The Fly, was another great remake
Casino Royale, the James Bond movie - absolutely!
And I have seen atleast a few remakes of the movies, Invasion of the body snatchers, which have been pretty good.
Let me in (best Chloë movie in my mind) was an excellent remake.

Properly more - and some we dont even know are remakes...

Of course, the list of remakes that went horrible wrong are longer.

[Oskar]

Hey Mordensen (and welcome to the boards, btw ), I know where you stand on the matter and I respect your views.

I might be the only one, but I will still give Carrie - and any other remake - a chance if I have a gut feeling it could be good or contribute to the whole story.

I don't really care about other peoples money - or how much Hollywood is earning make that remake... If it entertains me, it entertains me - and I will pay for that.

Even if they butcher Carrie, I will most likely still go watch it just because Chloë's in it - and as the main character...

[Sav]

This has been one of the most unintentionally entertaining stretches I've read anywhere ever.

Spoiler!

Probably for millions, er, dozens of others like myself too.

[Oskar]

Didn't I just ask you not reply to me?

I'm sorry, that dosn't work on me You can't reply to one of my posts - then try to end it at once with the words "don't bother to reply to me". This is a discussion forum after all

Oh, well. Uh, anyway, as much as I like Chloe - she gives me hope that the future of movies isn't completely lost - I won't be seeing this remake simply because the original is fine as it is.

I can understand that - even for your reasons. I felt the same way about Hick for a long time. Just for other reasons. I didn't wanna watch it because the whole story and events happening to Chloë's character disturbs me, but now I actually wanna see it - just because of Chloë and because... It is just a movie afterall.

and I don't feel What younger people fail to understand is that those of us who grew up with these movies, they hold a special place in our hearts and memories, and that is just part of many reasons why we stand firmly against remakes as a whole. All the excuses and reasons people throw at us count for naught because they simply miss the point of why we are against them in the first place.

True, but still, not all originals were really that good - and some have not even stood the time of aging very well. Hollywood is about money... Well, the whole world is about money - Hollywood just happens to be about a whole lot of them - and yes, the whole remake deal has really been dragged through the mud by some greedy coorporations and producers looking for some quick and easy money... Mostly they failed, luckily enough...

But some do have quality in mind and don't just spit out movies for money. Look at Kimberly Peirce for instance - she don't spit out movies and her previous work has been of pretty high quality. That gives me more comfort in this remake - but it dosn't remove all my own sceptism.

The way I and millions of others see it is it's too bad for this new generation that they were born when they were, and missed out on the era when movies were worth seeing by the dozens!

Thats harsh, really. I see no reason why we can't bring these movies to a new audience, when clearly people will not go back watching old movies in poor picture and sound quality vs. todays picture quality and sound quality - as much as I would not expect you to go back and watch the old silent movies.

We actually cared to see more than one or two because there were so many good movies being released, we saw them in the theatre, and now own them on DVD. That is our saving grace from redundancy in film making. The late 70s/80s were the times for movies, especially horror!

"The good old days..."

You're living in the past. Yes, the 80's was the "greatest" decade for music and movies and a horde of wonderful horror movies from the late 70s and early 80s was plentyful - especially the old zombie movies, that was almost impossible to get because they were banned (atleast here in Denmark) in the beginning... But really - try to rent some of those horror movies today and you will get a real wake-up call... Most of them are dull and boring by todays standards and many were better left off in the "good old memory"...

These days it's very difficult to find many worth watching... and most that are come from other countries...some which Hollyweird later butchers. It's their endless appetite of greed and they know they can count on a brainwashed society to go flock and see these fiascos only to walk out disgusted and disappointed as I have witnessed and overheard countless times.

I don't actually think there are less quality movies today than back then... It's just, there are alot more horrible movies out there in the bundle - and the reason is simple: The movie production of today is alot bigger and more professional than before - therefore you got more movies and tv-shows and whatnot - more than you can every dream to watch... This abundance of movies and tv-shows triggers a "numbness" in us making it alot harder to satisfy our senses because they are overloaded.

But its only a good thing, that many good foreign films are getting more praise these days. Korean are big in horror and action movies. One of my all time favorite movies, Oldboy, is Korean. Japanese horror movies had a few good years untill the whole "long dark-haired evil girl" theme got tiresome, French horror movies, which also contains one of my all time favorites, Switchblade Romance (Haute Tension) and even Indian Bollywood movies are making an impact (but why do they all have to be like 3 hours long!!!).

Its all down to distrubition - its just alot easier today than back then. Thats why we are getting so many movies from west and east (and also the junk).

You see, it's these young people mostly who don't see how it affects us who saw the originals, grew up with them, and having them remade is like a mad scientist placing us in temporary comas, and tainting our fond memories with scenes of torture and lucid dreaming in mediocrity. You understand? It's insulting to us...

You show no respect to their wishes, so why do you expect them to show respect our wishes?

We are different generations - them and us - but that shouldn't affect you at all. The originals are still there for you to love and buy - and the remakes don't affect the "reputation" of the originals - if anything they make the originals look better when they fail, because then everyone will praise the original and dismiss the remakes. And even if the remakes should be better - most of the time the originals still stand their ground and they are still praised.

So really, I dont see how it could affect the originals... And certaintly not how it should ever effect us as persons.

But hey, if you want worse, I just saw the trailer for "Rock of Ages." Now, talk about absurd! They're basically combining "Rock Star", "Glee", "High School Musical", and "Chicago" with Broadway renditions of the worst genre of rock to ever exist that has been thankfully long dead: glam rock...

Thanks, but no thanks. I havn't even watched "Rock of Ages", "Glee", "High School Musical" or "Chicago" - I don't mind that genre of movies.

Though, Chicago, is suppose to be a really good musical... Never really gotten around to see it though.

[Oskar]

[Japandroid17]

Wow, that was alot of action today (and alot of reading.) Not much to add other than while I think it's perfectly fine to have differing views on the merits of remakes etc..., I think we should all take a breath and realize that we're talking about something rather trivial. It's nothing to get worked up over. I for one, am glad we're not talking about politics or religion, that would just be an even more volatile conversation.
Back to the subject of Carrie, I don't think Chloe would be doing this movie if she didn't think that there was something to add to the character and a new audience to bring it to. Let's face it, Holywood makes movies for the 15-34 demographic. (That might be why Mordensenn has such a strong opinion against such films.) I'm just glad to see her in a starring role that will get worldwide distribution. This could be really big for her carreer, so while some of us may be skeptical of another remake(myself included,) we should all be supportive of Chloe.